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ZlandCommunications Achieves a New Web Presence
First Canadian news service to profile UFO/ET News World-wide
Toronto, Ontario, Canada, October 21, 2009 – The ZlandCommunications news service has established a new internet web presence. ZlandCommunications is the first Canadian news service that profiles international breaking news and political analysis of the fastest growing information on the planet.
As stated on the web site – “ZlandCommunications is a news service dedicated to the compilation, world-wide distribution and analysis of news relating to the Disclosure of information concerning the Extraterrestrial presence engaging the planet.
First Canadian news service to profile UFO/ET News World-wide
Toronto, Ontario, Canada, October 21, 2009 – The ZlandCommunications news service has established a new internet web presence. ZlandCommunications is the first Canadian news service that profiles international breaking news and political analysis of the fastest growing information on the planet.
As stated on the web site – “ZlandCommunications is a news service dedicated to the compilation, world-wide distribution and analysis of news relating to the Disclosure of information concerning the Extraterrestrial presence engaging the planet.
This presence is manifested by the UFO phenomenon and other related anomalous events.
The Geo-political impact of the world-wide Disclosure of the UFO phenomenon, the high degree of government secrecy and the clearly apparent Extraterrestrial origins of this phenomenon are poised to forge new avenues of journalistic investigation and inquiry. ZlandCommunications is at the forefront of this global news paradigm transition….”
In a year when Canadian and world-wide UFO sightings have experienced double digit percentage increases, ZlandCommunications will not simply report on UFO sightings but will look at the political and social implications of this phenomenon and why governments continue to employ strict secrecy and silence with regard to the UFO issue and why most mainstream media refuse to engage this matter.
What is available for journalists on this new web site?
High Profile News Releases – concerning current UFO/ET related events from around the world.
Government Documents – access to authenticated memoranda and letters obtained from freedom of information requests that clearly prove an undeniable historical government involvement in UFO secrecy.
Free Energy News – concerning new technologies and energy sources that can replace fossil fuels but that are not available to the public due to government secrecy.
Archived News Releases – from ZlandCommunications’ wealth of data from international sources.
Statements by world renowned spokespersons – Dr. Edgar Mitchell former Apollo 14 astronaut, the Rt. Hon. Paul Hellyer former Canadian Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of National Defense.
Articles by researchers
Audio and Video highlights of significant UFO/ET related events.
Watch for ZlandCommunications’ next news release as it expands its international coverage of the social, economic and political implications of the UFO/ET issue.
To write to ZlandCommunications with inquiries, comments, news tips or research breakthroughs, please use the contact information below.
“One day, very soon every mainstream electronic, print and internet news service on the planet will fiercely compete to find the breaking news about the Extraterrestrial and UFO reality – you - have found it right here.” News Director
Web site URL:
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[ZlandCommunications is a sole proprietorship owned and operated by ZNN - the ZlandCommunications News Network]
The Geo-political impact of the world-wide Disclosure of the UFO phenomenon, the high degree of government secrecy and the clearly apparent Extraterrestrial origins of this phenomenon are poised to forge new avenues of journalistic investigation and inquiry. ZlandCommunications is at the forefront of this global news paradigm transition….”
In a year when Canadian and world-wide UFO sightings have experienced double digit percentage increases, ZlandCommunications will not simply report on UFO sightings but will look at the political and social implications of this phenomenon and why governments continue to employ strict secrecy and silence with regard to the UFO issue and why most mainstream media refuse to engage this matter.
What is available for journalists on this new web site?
High Profile News Releases – concerning current UFO/ET related events from around the world.
Government Documents – access to authenticated memoranda and letters obtained from freedom of information requests that clearly prove an undeniable historical government involvement in UFO secrecy.
Free Energy News – concerning new technologies and energy sources that can replace fossil fuels but that are not available to the public due to government secrecy.
Archived News Releases – from ZlandCommunications’ wealth of data from international sources.
Statements by world renowned spokespersons – Dr. Edgar Mitchell former Apollo 14 astronaut, the Rt. Hon. Paul Hellyer former Canadian Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of National Defense.
Articles by researchers
Audio and Video highlights of significant UFO/ET related events.
Watch for ZlandCommunications’ next news release as it expands its international coverage of the social, economic and political implications of the UFO/ET issue.
To write to ZlandCommunications with inquiries, comments, news tips or research breakthroughs, please use the contact information below.
“One day, very soon every mainstream electronic, print and internet news service on the planet will fiercely compete to find the breaking news about the Extraterrestrial and UFO reality – you - have found it right here.” News Director
Web site URL:
https://sites.google.com/site/zlandcommunications/home/zlandcommunications
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____________________
Contact Information:
ZlandCommunications
Toronto Ontario Canada
905-278-1238
zland@sympatico.ca
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A News Service that takes you to the edge and beyond…
[ZlandCommunications is a sole proprietorship owned and operated by ZNN - the ZlandCommunications News Network]
In this historic book, Steven M. Greer MD and the CSETI team of Ambassadors to the Universe chronicle the amazing Contacts they have had since 1992.
Learn how the CSETI contact protocols have led to ongoing - and rapidly increasing - contact with Interstellar Civilizations and how these Contact events are building to an astounding crescendo - We are now in the final Countdown to the Transformation of life on Earth as we become a peaceful, universal society.
This book goes far beyond the usual accounting of objects seen in the sky and takes the reader into a universe of higher states of consciousness, remote viewing and direct Contact with civilizations that interface with thought and awareness as easily as we talk on cell phones. Journey with the CSETI team as they go beyond the veil of light and the resonant frequency of matter and enter into close contact with numerous ET civilizations who eagerly await the coming Transformation on Earth.
The accompanying DVD shows the images, sights and sounds of Contact, as it has evolved over the past 17 years.
You will learn how this Contact has been made - and how you, too, can become an Ambassador to the Universe!
Available ONLY as a set and ONLY from www.DisclosureProject.org
$24.95 for DVD and book includes media mail shipping in US. Check the website for other shipping options.
See more here!
Despite partial disclosure, Europe's UFO files remain mostly under wraps
On August 4, 1990, an unidentified flying object was seen hovering in daylight near the town of Pitlochry in Scotland. Eyewitnesses stated that the diamond shaped object hung in the sky for about 10 minutes as two military aircraft made a series of low-level passes near it.
Almost three weeks later on August 24, hundreds of tourists and local residents observed formations of luminous spheres for over 30 minutes in the sky near the German city of Greifswald, located close to the coast of the Baltic Sea.
In November of that year, a triangular object was seen by numerous witnesses passing over Saint-Germain in the Champagne-Ardenne region of France. The object moved slowly at low altitude and emitted beams of light towards the ground before eventually speeding away.
Steve Bassett in Finland 24-27 September 2009
Usko Ahonen and Steve in Puijo Tower, Kuopio on 25. September
Steve had a very successful visit in FUFORA annual meeting in Orivesi, Finland on 26-27 September. Before his presentation in FUFORA meeting he had a tour to Kuopio where there was a group of interested people discussing with him about exopolitical issues. Among these people there were several contactees and other persons that have had UFO sightings.
Anja Setälä, FUFORA secretary
Olli, Reijo Hamari and Tapani Kuningas (editor of ULTRA magazine)
Photo: Anja Setälä
Watch other videos about Steve's interviews
in FUFORA seminar in Exopolitics Finland TV
by clicking the photo or this text!
Photo: Anja Setälä
A possible orb in a photo taken during Steve's presentation on 26. September
Usko Ahonen and Steve in Puijo Tower, Kuopio on 25. September
Steve had a very successful visit in FUFORA annual meeting in Orivesi, Finland on 26-27 September. Before his presentation in FUFORA meeting he had a tour to Kuopio where there was a group of interested people discussing with him about exopolitical issues. Among these people there were several contactees and other persons that have had UFO sightings.
Anja Setälä, FUFORA secretary
Olli, Reijo Hamari and Tapani Kuningas (editor of ULTRA magazine)
Photo: Anja Setälä
in FUFORA seminar in Exopolitics Finland TV
by clicking the photo or this text!
Photo: Anja Setälä
A possible orb in a photo taken during Steve's presentation on 26. September
Edition 25 - Beyond Knowledge 2009, Part 1 | |
| Edition 25 was recorded on location of the Beyond Knowledge Conference 2009 and features Steve Bassett from the Paradigm Research Group (www.paradigmresearchgroup.org) with the latest on Disclosure, British UFO expert and ex Defence Ministry man Nick Pope (www.nickpope.net) and the first conversation anywhere in the world with Richard C Hoagland (www.enterprisemission.com) about his amazing new research - unveiled at Beyond Knowledge.
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Steve in a radio interview in Paranormal Radio Network
The Fourth Ufology Congress of “Alpha and Omega” in Lima, Peru
Thanks to the publicity of their activities by Doctor Anthony Choy, on his radio show, I knew that in our country it is perhaps the only group that was able to bring very important speakers and researchers of the ufological investigation from abroad. Just click on their webpages and you will find a very interesting list of their past conferences, including Robert O´Dean, Brian O´Leary, Robert Salas, russian astronauts, and even scientists, all of them speakers or scholars of the ufo research.
Recently on my trip to Lima, I could meet the main organizer of the event of this year, Noé Curasi Holguín, in the building of “ Alpha and Omega”, in “ Lince” district. I was invited for lunch and I went with a skeptic friend of mine, Bernardo Conrado, to whom I recommended to behave in the meeting. At the end, we both were surprised by the logical conversation of Noé. Bernardo questioned him many times about the vegetarian diet that is the base of the members of this group, and Noé knew very well about nutrition, proteins, calories, and vitamins of the food he ate and that replaced meat. We were pleasantly surprised.
Afterwards, in conversation with Doctor Choy, I was told about what makes this group to organize their conferences. It is their curiosity to know more about everything. They were not only satisfied by their beliefs, but if they thought that there was somebody that could teach them more, they did the possible and impossible to bring speakers from all over the Earth. What brilliant peruvians with very few means of support, but who do a lot just to learn. That curiosity for knowledge involves a kind of wisdom - these people are open-minded. They do not reject other ideologies. Doctor Modesto Montoya, a very well known peruvian scientist, has been present in their past conferences, in spite of his direct skepticism.
I thank Noé for his invitation for the vegetarian lunch and for the congress of this year I will not be able to attend because of my job responsibilities. Most importantly I thank him for his benign interest for my investigations, in spite of my opposite points of view. That afternoon, I met a real friend.
Luis Vásquez Coronel.
Peruvian UFO researcher.
Read more in the webpage of “Alpha and Omega” group in Spanish (Click!)
Thanks to the publicity of their activities by Doctor Anthony Choy, on his radio show, I knew that in our country it is perhaps the only group that was able to bring very important speakers and researchers of the ufological investigation from abroad. Just click on their webpages and you will find a very interesting list of their past conferences, including Robert O´Dean, Brian O´Leary, Robert Salas, russian astronauts, and even scientists, all of them speakers or scholars of the ufo research.
Recently on my trip to Lima, I could meet the main organizer of the event of this year, Noé Curasi Holguín, in the building of “ Alpha and Omega”, in “ Lince” district. I was invited for lunch and I went with a skeptic friend of mine, Bernardo Conrado, to whom I recommended to behave in the meeting. At the end, we both were surprised by the logical conversation of Noé. Bernardo questioned him many times about the vegetarian diet that is the base of the members of this group, and Noé knew very well about nutrition, proteins, calories, and vitamins of the food he ate and that replaced meat. We were pleasantly surprised.Afterwards, in conversation with Doctor Choy, I was told about what makes this group to organize their conferences. It is their curiosity to know more about everything. They were not only satisfied by their beliefs, but if they thought that there was somebody that could teach them more, they did the possible and impossible to bring speakers from all over the Earth. What brilliant peruvians with very few means of support, but who do a lot just to learn. That curiosity for knowledge involves a kind of wisdom - these people are open-minded. They do not reject other ideologies. Doctor Modesto Montoya, a very well known peruvian scientist, has been present in their past conferences, in spite of his direct skepticism.
I thank Noé for his invitation for the vegetarian lunch and for the congress of this year I will not be able to attend because of my job responsibilities. Most importantly I thank him for his benign interest for my investigations, in spite of my opposite points of view. That afternoon, I met a real friend.
Luis Vásquez Coronel.
Peruvian UFO researcher.
Read more in the webpage of “Alpha and Omega” group in Spanish (Click!)
The grand premier of "I Know What I Saw" (directed and hosted by James Fox) was on
Sunday October 4 on the History Channel
Paola Harris and James Fox in Rome 2007"Director and host James Fox assembles the most credible UFO witnesses from around the world to testify on the subject and share their experiences and observations. Air Force generals, astronauts, military and commercial pilots, government and FAA officials from seven countries gather at the National Press Club in Washington D.C. to tell stories that, as former Arizona governor Fife Symington states, "will challenge your reality." These accounts reveal a behind-the-scenes U.S. operation whose policy, in the eyes of some observers, seems to involve confiscation of substantiating evidence from close encounters--to the extent that even Presidents have failed to get straight answers."
Shifting dimensions
Paola Harris - IUFOC 2009
Interview with Richard C Hoagland by Paola Harris
Albuquerque, New Mexico
July 2007
Richard C. Hoagland is an investigator who gained fame for his claims that NASA has been covering up various space facts such as the truth about the Apollo moon landings, the “ face on Mars”, etc. Hoagland has worked as a space museum curator, a NASA Consultant and science advisor to CBS News.
New book: Dark Mission
Dark Mission: The Secret History of NASA
PH: I never heard that Kennedy had a meeting in Vienna with Khrushchev.
RH: It was the first big summit.
PH: Was it just Khrushchev?
RH: Yes. It was a superpower summit between Khrushchev and the newly elected president. Remember, he’d just been elected a few months before.
PH: When did Khrushchev put the deal on the table?
RH: Later. About a year later.
PH: We’re assuming they had this conversation?
RH: We know it now because of his son, who is a scholar and historian at Brown University in Providence RI. In this conversation with his father about a joint space venture that he revealed that unbeknownst to the whole world,
they discussed a number of issues. One of the issues that Kennedy brought up was, would you like to go to the moon with us? This is truly extraordinary. It’s always been a race with the Russians to get there first. You’re either racing to beat them, to demonstrate to the world that the Capitalist system is superior to the Communist system, or you’re going there to get something really important that you want to share with your worst enemies because what’s there is bigger than what separates you.
PH: How do you explain that?
RH: I think he knew what was there. The Apollo missions were set up to go and get their stuff.
PH: But why would Khrushchev do it?
RH: Because we were facing the Russians in a nuclear war that would have destroyed the human race. If you’re going to change the paradigm, you need a big stick, something that’s bigger than everybody.
PH: Did Khrushchev admire Kennedy afterward?
RH: He rejected the offer. Kennedy kept doing it, up until his death. He kept offering it again and again.
PH: And this was after the Cuban Missile Crisis, Khrushchev had some respect for Kennedy.
RH: The plan was like this. In September of 1963 Kennedy brought James Webb into the Oval Office and he proposed the joint space venture publicly. That’s on tape. We have that from the official Kennedy archives. No one understands what that means. They don’t get that this completely undercut the entire reason for Apollo. That it was no race. There was a bigger reason to go.
PH: Those guys got really angry with Kennedy because --
RH: Representative Albert Thomas, who was head of the Appropriations Committee, was furious. Basically accused him of being a Commie and of giving away everything. This was in September. He goes on record and he makes a speech to the UN. Public record. See I remember this, because I thought at the time that it was kind of strange. September 17, 1963.
Anyway, he makes a public statement, and the people who were most against it were the American press and the Congress. The Russian press and the Russian officials said nothing. There was no comment at all about it. Nothing!
PH: What about the intelligence community? How did they like it?
RH: Nobody here liked it. But the press was basically against it.
PH: How much press would you get out of the Soviet Union? There wasn’t much press there.
RH: There was none. So then, 12th, according to Khrushchev’s son, or we fast forward to November 11th Khrushchev suddenly decided to accept. And I looked at Mike Bara and we were putting all this together because I’m the one who realized what was happening, and I said there had to have been some specific meeting that made Khrushchev change his mind.
PH: And you found it.
RH: And I found it. On the 11th, an unmanned spaceship to Mars failed and he obviously got very mad at his guys and said you idiots, you can’t do anything right. I’m going to take up Kennedy’s offer because we’ve got to get there. Together. And from the end of the current crisis, which was October of 1962, they had all those months to build confi dence in each other as people they could trust. And he finally said yes.
PH: The fact that it was the eleventh, whenever I see eleven in anything, the fact that the Apollo landed, or any kind of eleven, is that out there, Richard?
RH: Eleven-eleven is another code for 19.5. I could show you mathematically how it works. After Kennedy’s bill in that appropriation cycle for the national budget came up for review, this Congressman Albert Thomas who, you’ll see in the book, winking at Lyndon Johnson on the plane right after Johnson was on the plane with Jackie on the program.
PH: Right after he took the oath.
RH: Right after he took the oath. And with Congressman Thomas grinning at him.
PH: You’ve got that picture?
RH: It’s in the book. It’s the one taken right after the swearing-in ceremony. He’s winking at Johnson. We did it. We got him. He introduced a bill that no NASA appropriation from that day forward has had any provision for the Soviet Union . So yeah, it was a discourtesy. You only tell these guys what they need to know to go and do their job as good soldiers.
PH: James Wood, does he know?
RH: James Wood was a 33rd degree Mason. He’s part of the crowd that wanted it all hushed up.
PH: so the Masons, the Scottish -
RH: The Scottish Rite Masons.
PH: Okay, because you have to make that clear. And you also said it was something about ruins on the moon, like the southern Masonry --
RH: The southern district.
PH: Southern district of Masonry. They’re the ones that know about this.
RH: Buzz Aldrin took their flag to the moon. He gave it to them in a ceremony; we’ve got the pictures in the book. Ph. Paola: You mentioned that the 60th anniversary of the Roswell crash is
significant.
RH: This is the sixtieth year of Roswell. Roswell is like the benchmark of ET studies.
PH: The benchmark?
RH: Yeah, of course. Kenneth Arnold, sixtieth year of Roswell 2007…it’s not a coincidence that the book with the memo from Dallas this year that came out three weeks ago. Anyway – so sixty, yeah, I was expecting something interesting. In this sixtieth year, we have all these little indicators that something is coming, like O’Hare.
PH: You think O’Hare was our stuff , possibly.
RH: It’s all about revealing something. Not necessarily revealing the truth, but revealing something. Remember, you can make our stuff look like their stuff. People don’t notice our stuff, they don’t know that we have stuff. They’ve been kept in the dark. Even Art Bell was kind of amusing, because he sees this thing floating out over him in Verona, over the valley, this huge
triangle, and wonders – is it theirs or ours? So when I saw this stuff appear on You Tube, Secret Apollo Missions and all that, it’s very simple now. It’s a secret space program operating under hyperdimensional physics. Which means antigravity. That’s how you take forty people to the moon. So someone, whoever wrote this story, is connecting it to the whole Masonic thing. He uses it, in the opening sequence of it --
PH: He’s connecting it?
RH: He’s connecting it. Deliberately. That’s why he picked the name Rutledge? Remember, I came out and I said his name is a code, which is why Robin looked it up. We found out this whole business about Armstrong, and the Rutledge, and Irwin. What does he complain about? That there’s Apollo 15 soundtrack mixed into this Apollo 20 footage. And that’s referred back to
Irwin. It’s all codes, codes, and codes. The bottom line is, it says the Masons have been running a secret space program. It used to be NASA, but it’s now moved off in other directions, and NASA is basically over. NASA is obsolete. That is merely window dressing. It’s a diversion, it’s not real, and that’s not where the real power is. That’s what this whole thing is trying to say. This is validated by completely separate research, which is in the book.
PH: So NASA, from now on, will be that separate group.
RH: Yes, but it been there for a long time. As soon as they developed antigravity as a working, functioning technology, which I think was back when we saw the STS 48, then when you had the shuttle and it’s already over Australia and they photographed this stuff going incredible g-forces and all that. Around 19.5. Then the one over ICF-80, with the stuff over Chile, which was again over 19.5. On the 195th orbit. There is no explanation, no one is asking the question. I’m the only one asking the question.
PH: Okay, but what is the explanation for all the activity over the 19.5, because that’s where all the activity is.
RH: Ice crystals?
PH: What’s your explanation?
RH: Our secret space program. They’re documenting and doing short readings on the spacecraft we developed. It’s got to be done on the ritual. It’s a religious ritual. It’s transcendent. If they work the methodology properly, they will live forever. That’s what they think. Isn’t that what every religion preaches? Believe in me and you will live forever? For the followers of Osiris
and Christ, the message is the same.
PH: And the reason why you say Osiris is because the space program is filled with Egyptian Symbolism ?
RH: All the major alignments are made to Osiris, i.e., Orion. Sirius is Isis.
PH: We thought all this was mythology.
RH: At some point, this may actually have been real, in the sense that we don’t know how it all actually began. Are we worshipping members of the family, a long long time ago? Where the mythology defines our gods? Anyway, bottom line – the whole story to me is a coded story, designed to tell us there’s a secret space program, NASA is irrelevant, it’s not where the action is, and there’s more to come.
PH: July, the seventh month, 1947.
RH: The actual code number is 19.47. It rounds up to 19.5.
PH: Why do you say ET is us? Who did you say is ET, aliens or us?
RH: ET. Extraterrestrial. It’s a designation of real estate; it’s where you hang your hat. Alien means different from others.
PH: You’re the only one who defines it this way, right? Because in the movie, ET was not us.
RH: But if you look at the language, it’s right on. You can be an alien and an extraterrestrial. He’s an alien.
PH: Is there anyone or anything else that’s like the aliens, like from Zeta Reticuli, and the ET is us from the future, from another planet like Mars or something? Is there anything written that I can look at?
RH: I have to think about it.
PH: That’s one thing that I heard you say that interested me a lot.
RH: Do you remember the film, The Day the Earth Stood Still?
PH: Yes.
RH: And they were in the hospital, and the lungs were the same, the heart was the same, and they thought it must be convergent evolution. Why were they saying in that film what they knew, that they had two different sets of extraterrestrials? You have aliens who are not genetically related, and then you have family, human beings who live in other places, on other planets.
It’s right out there in that film. Because Michael Rennie was representing the fraction of the human race that’s not here. Now if we fast-forward the film to 1969, Neil Armstrong lands on the moon and utters his famous phrase. There’s thirty years of controversy, which they tried to put their finger in the dyke and stifle…
PH: You mean “mankind” instead of man?
RH: Yes.
PH: Oh, that makes sense.
RH: Why? Because it was the message.
PH: Oh Richard. Only you could come up with this. It’s just semantics.
RH: “One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.” He was representing all of the Pleadians and the Nordics and all the other members of the human genome from all those planets all over the galaxy, and that’s in the book. In the final part, I decode that.
PH: Can I use this?
RH: Yes.
PH: Because most people I talk to think of ET as the odd looking greys.
RH: They’re ignorant. They’re taking their cues from Stephen Spielberg, who was misleading people.
PH: Do you know anything specific about who commissioned The Day the Earth Stood Still? I think it was commissioned by the government.
RH: I do too. Who was the guy, when he finally got his film after decades of us all pushing, who was the one guy Gene Roddenberry turned to for Star Trek the Movie? Robert Wise.
PH: So Robert Wise and Roddenberry and the vision of Roddenberry…
RH: Robert Wise is part of the in crowd. So was George Lucas.
PH: So they’re part of an in crowd of disclosure. The Insiders?
RH: Part of an in crowd that knows that the rate at which they are allowed to disclose may or may not be up to them.
PH: There’s an agenda.
RH: Nothing happens by accident.
PH: So the people who were on Mars are us, and then we came down on Earth, so it’s all us? Bradbury said that at the end of Martian Chronicles, that we are the Martians. They look in the water and he says look at that, they are us. He’s the only guy on my list of ten people that I
never met. I had a list of ten people in my book, and I met all of them by accident except Bradbury. He’s the only one I haven’t met yet. He lives in California. Of course, he’s not dead yet, so I might still meet him one day.
RH: He was on Coast to Coast recently. George was off and they had a guest host, and he wanted to talk to, of all people, Bradbury.
PH: So I can get an archive of it? I admire him so much. I love his work, especially Night Meeting, with the parallel reality kind of argument. At the very end he uses those famous words which I use a lot, let’s agree to disagree. Because there’s no winning that. Anyway, so the name of your book is?
RH: Dark Mission: The Secret History Of NASA
PH: That sounds very ominous. So we were talking yesterday about the Rutledge thing, because it comes out ironically sixty years after the Roswell event. These are secret missions?
RH: We now know, as the book documents, that these people are ritual obsessives. They can do nothing without the ritual, and the ritual involves these numbers, like 33, 60, 19.5, etc.
PH: When did the ritual begin? It had to begin before NASA, right?
RH: Oh, yes. It’s an ancient religion, an Egyptian stellar religion.
PH: So who decided they were going to do the ritual?
RH: The Masons. Now remember, the Masons took over NASA.
PH: The Masons took over America, too.
RH: Yeah, well, they were part of the foundation of the country. But in NASA you had two other groups who were competing for power. The Masons, the Nazis, and the magicians. Aleister Crowley, Jack Parsons, that whole wing.
PH: I don’t know what their involvement is, I’ll have to read your book.
RH: So they’re competing, and when Rutledge which of course is not his name --
PH: Robin looked up his name in an encyclopedia, and she saw that the words Armstrong, Rutledge, and Irwin are part of the Scottish --
RH: And remember what Irwin said was his big objection to the reality of this?
PH: No, what was that?
RH: There’s a bit of the soundtrack to Apollo 15 in there, which makes it seem like a fake. But it’s not, because the whole thing’s a fake. It’s all part of the message. It’s a complicated, multilevel code. Remember, I came out and I said, it’s all a code, including his name.
PH: Including the 19 and 20.
RH: Well, when you go back, the thing broke over You Tube about a month ago where somebody posted on You Tube from Africa ostensibly, the secret results of the secret NASA missions, Apollo 19 and 20, and that they went to this secret place on the far side of the moon that had been photographed by Apollo 15. So the first thing I did was to have my guys,
Laney and Troy, go to the archives. They’re both lunar people, they’ve done incredible lunar work.
PH: They had gotten you the original photographs, which had been severely altered.
RH: Well, we pulled them from a few different archives, and both sets of archives had been tampered with. It obviously had been done very early on, because now you can alter a photograph in PhotoShop and it’s seamless, you don’t even know. But this was like whitewash over the negative and when you brought it up in PhotoShop, you could see how it had been painted. Like somebody had taken a brush and painted the negative. So this corroborates
what somebody like Ken Johnson said, about people painting negatives, which bothered him because when you paint a negative, you destroy the information. Now of course the original negatives will never be seen. So I thought, okay, some other group is trying to hide it. So then, when Laney put his results up on his website to have his people look at it, somebody pointed out that the artifact on the Apollo 15 images were at 19.5 degrees. And then he said, Oh, come on, you’ve got to be kidding. So he measured it. It was right next to Psiakolskei, and Psiakolskei was at 19.5. Then I realized that the secret missions were 19 and 20. It’s absurd that there are secret missions, you can’t launch a Saturn 5 secretly.
PH: If we’re assuming that it comes out of NASA in Florida, but could it be launched from somewhere else?
RH: No, because you’d need a huge infrastructure. And they had to be trucked there by ship. And then the Russians would have known.
PH: The only reason I’m saying this is because some of the testimony from Charles Hall, he saw near the Area 51range, rockets go off. He said they were launching rockets that went up in that area in 1965.
RH: It couldn’t have been launched from there. One of the stories says 40 astronauts. Apollo could carry three. Forty went. Remember he claimed that they were communicating by a tyro satellite, which was an earth weather satellite. Well that’s more of the code. Nothing in this story is what it appears to be.
PH: So what’s the code about the tyro?
RH: I don’t know yet. You have to go look it up, I don’t have to do all the work, do I? He could have made up the name, why put up real information? So if you’re dealing with a code, nothing in a code is superfluous. It’s all part of the code. Each little detail, even if it looks like it doesn’t fi t, probably does. You just have to think at another level.
PH: So why do you think this came out now? These are military astronauts, this is hard for people to swallow.
RH: Why? We had the whole Air Force dinosaur program, which was a pre-shuttle shuttle. There was a space station, there were supposed to be three space stations.
PH: We have this wonderment about traveling among the planets and stars and discovering space, and when you shove the word “military” in there it gives the space exploration a whole other meaning to the wonderment that we had in the sixties when Kennedy said we would
shoot for the stars.
RH: That was a lie.
PH: What part was a lie?
RH: That it was non-military. There was never a part that was nonmilitary. In the book I show in NASA’s own charter, that it says it was part of the Defense Department.
PH: Wasn’t it supposed to be a civilian organization?
RH: That’s the public spin. And that’s the lie. This book is going to open a lot of eyes, because we document everything.
PH: It’s going to be hard for people to digest this lie.
RH: After Iraq, with no weapons of mass destruction, and a war that’s cost three thousand lives, for nothing? 70-80% of Americans believe that.
PH: The big question is what is NASA’s agenda?
RH: Initially, it was formed around available technology to grow as fast as it could, to get to the moon, and bring back technology.
PH: Alien technology?
RH: No, ours. Stuff left there by the family a very long time ago. Which these guys think they’re the heirs to, that it’s their stuff. And they think they’re the bloodline that deserves to have sole access. They’re not telling anybody else. It’s all about, “they can’t have that, that’s mine.”
PH: Is that alien technology, or our ET technology? Is it an either/or, does it have to be?
RH: The fact that they act like it’s theirs – remember, we’re talking about elite bloodlines, families, secret societies to think they’re special, they’re related – it’s about who owns it. That’s the attitude. No one is admitting, nor will they ever want to admit, that there’s more family. That’s why the whole thing about Armstrong’s first line is so important.
PH: They don’t want to admit that they’re aliens, they just want --
RH: ETs, not aliens. It’s the ET part they’re covering up, that we’re only one subset of a bigger mankind.
PH: But even the ones that don’t look like us, that are kind of small, and inbred, those are not from another planet?
RH: A jury can make anything out of it.
PH: Genetic engineering can have worker bees.
RH: There are all kinds of models.
PH: So in this model, it’s all us. Those people are the past. So are we looking at what could be their future?
RH: Well, the stuff is there from the past.
PH: I have a lot of stories where US from the future comes back to tell us that, and it gets very tricky.
RH: Telling you stuff and being able to transmit technology are two different things. Information may be able to travel through time, but physical objects may not.
PH: So we’re dealing with an ancient past that is us, and we’re just reclaiming our stuff .
RH: Well I think that’s what they think. Because they act very territorial, very provincial. Like you can’t have it, that’s mine. And when Kennedy tried to share it, they killed him.
PH: Why did Kennedy want to share it with the Russians?
RH: Yes, as with one planet. Because the planet almost killed itself with nuclear war. He came a whisper away from the Cuban missile crisis. So he and Khrushchev realized they needed something bigger to get everybody to stop fighting each other. There are many reasons people are in it for because it’s never been about UFOs. Particularly now that Walter Haut has risen from the grave and has given them what they’ve been looking for; that he saw the alien bodies in Roswell.
PH: You are right Richard. We are still a primitive tribe fighting over that scrap of land, over ideologies, over everything. It is nuts!
RH: Are we getting a real look into the field?
PH: So Walter Haut – and you think that’s a program, sixtieth – and you expect more this year?
RH: Is the Pope Catholic?
PH: So the ultimate agenda for NASA is to get back the stuff they think is theirs in the first place.
RH: Yes.
PH: Now does all of NASA know this, or just part of NASA?
RH: No the lies are different at every level. It’s in the book. Originally, in 1958 – remember, the space program began as a competing set of military eff orts. The Marines, the Navy, the Air Force, they were all competing with each other to go to the moon, launch satellites, beat the Russians. The services have always competed.
PH: What Ex Canadian minister of Defense Paul Hellyer said he was doing in the sixties was a monumental task of joining all the services together. One service, one thing he said because in America they were all fighting each other.
RH: So what Eisenhower did, obviously on the recommendation of people pulling the strings behind the scenes, was to create a separate space agency outside of the military services that would be technically still under the national security directives. The National Security Council, the Pentagon, the DOD, but would look like it was civilian. In fact, it’s not. That was another
lie. It’s a cover. It’s always a cover.
PH: Eisenhower was the first one to put it together.
RH: Yes, in July of 1958.
PH: Eisenhower knew a lot.
RH: So what did he warn when he quit? At the end of his term, he warned against the military-industrial complex. He saw the coming Fascist state. And he obviously was forced to do things that he was trying to warn people about.
PH: Do you think part of that is because you believe the meeting he had with aliens?
RH: I don’t know. Eisenhower ostensibly met with aliens on a golfing vacation, he suddenly had to go for a dentist appointment, he was gone for several hours and nobody watched So what did he warn against when he quit? It has happened.
PH: This cover-up is so deep and involves so many people; I will be surprised if they ever come clean. I am looking forward to your book, Richard.
Albuquerque, New Mexico
July 2007
Richard C. Hoagland is an investigator who gained fame for his claims that NASA has been covering up various space facts such as the truth about the Apollo moon landings, the “ face on Mars”, etc. Hoagland has worked as a space museum curator, a NASA Consultant and science advisor to CBS News.
New book: Dark Mission
Dark Mission: The Secret History of NASA
PH: I never heard that Kennedy had a meeting in Vienna with Khrushchev.RH: It was the first big summit.
PH: Was it just Khrushchev?
RH: Yes. It was a superpower summit between Khrushchev and the newly elected president. Remember, he’d just been elected a few months before.
PH: When did Khrushchev put the deal on the table?
RH: Later. About a year later.
PH: We’re assuming they had this conversation?
RH: We know it now because of his son, who is a scholar and historian at Brown University in Providence RI. In this conversation with his father about a joint space venture that he revealed that unbeknownst to the whole world,
they discussed a number of issues. One of the issues that Kennedy brought up was, would you like to go to the moon with us? This is truly extraordinary. It’s always been a race with the Russians to get there first. You’re either racing to beat them, to demonstrate to the world that the Capitalist system is superior to the Communist system, or you’re going there to get something really important that you want to share with your worst enemies because what’s there is bigger than what separates you.
PH: How do you explain that?
RH: I think he knew what was there. The Apollo missions were set up to go and get their stuff.
PH: But why would Khrushchev do it?
RH: Because we were facing the Russians in a nuclear war that would have destroyed the human race. If you’re going to change the paradigm, you need a big stick, something that’s bigger than everybody.
PH: Did Khrushchev admire Kennedy afterward?
RH: He rejected the offer. Kennedy kept doing it, up until his death. He kept offering it again and again.
PH: And this was after the Cuban Missile Crisis, Khrushchev had some respect for Kennedy.
RH: The plan was like this. In September of 1963 Kennedy brought James Webb into the Oval Office and he proposed the joint space venture publicly. That’s on tape. We have that from the official Kennedy archives. No one understands what that means. They don’t get that this completely undercut the entire reason for Apollo. That it was no race. There was a bigger reason to go.
PH: Those guys got really angry with Kennedy because --
RH: Representative Albert Thomas, who was head of the Appropriations Committee, was furious. Basically accused him of being a Commie and of giving away everything. This was in September. He goes on record and he makes a speech to the UN. Public record. See I remember this, because I thought at the time that it was kind of strange. September 17, 1963.
Anyway, he makes a public statement, and the people who were most against it were the American press and the Congress. The Russian press and the Russian officials said nothing. There was no comment at all about it. Nothing!
PH: What about the intelligence community? How did they like it?
RH: Nobody here liked it. But the press was basically against it.
PH: How much press would you get out of the Soviet Union? There wasn’t much press there.
RH: There was none. So then, 12th, according to Khrushchev’s son, or we fast forward to November 11th Khrushchev suddenly decided to accept. And I looked at Mike Bara and we were putting all this together because I’m the one who realized what was happening, and I said there had to have been some specific meeting that made Khrushchev change his mind.
PH: And you found it.
RH: And I found it. On the 11th, an unmanned spaceship to Mars failed and he obviously got very mad at his guys and said you idiots, you can’t do anything right. I’m going to take up Kennedy’s offer because we’ve got to get there. Together. And from the end of the current crisis, which was October of 1962, they had all those months to build confi dence in each other as people they could trust. And he finally said yes.
PH: The fact that it was the eleventh, whenever I see eleven in anything, the fact that the Apollo landed, or any kind of eleven, is that out there, Richard?
RH: Eleven-eleven is another code for 19.5. I could show you mathematically how it works. After Kennedy’s bill in that appropriation cycle for the national budget came up for review, this Congressman Albert Thomas who, you’ll see in the book, winking at Lyndon Johnson on the plane right after Johnson was on the plane with Jackie on the program.
PH: Right after he took the oath.
RH: Right after he took the oath. And with Congressman Thomas grinning at him.
PH: You’ve got that picture?
RH: It’s in the book. It’s the one taken right after the swearing-in ceremony. He’s winking at Johnson. We did it. We got him. He introduced a bill that no NASA appropriation from that day forward has had any provision for the Soviet Union . So yeah, it was a discourtesy. You only tell these guys what they need to know to go and do their job as good soldiers.
PH: James Wood, does he know?
RH: James Wood was a 33rd degree Mason. He’s part of the crowd that wanted it all hushed up.
PH: so the Masons, the Scottish -
RH: The Scottish Rite Masons.
PH: Okay, because you have to make that clear. And you also said it was something about ruins on the moon, like the southern Masonry --
RH: The southern district.
PH: Southern district of Masonry. They’re the ones that know about this.
RH: Buzz Aldrin took their flag to the moon. He gave it to them in a ceremony; we’ve got the pictures in the book. Ph. Paola: You mentioned that the 60th anniversary of the Roswell crash is
significant.
RH: This is the sixtieth year of Roswell. Roswell is like the benchmark of ET studies.
PH: The benchmark?
RH: Yeah, of course. Kenneth Arnold, sixtieth year of Roswell 2007…it’s not a coincidence that the book with the memo from Dallas this year that came out three weeks ago. Anyway – so sixty, yeah, I was expecting something interesting. In this sixtieth year, we have all these little indicators that something is coming, like O’Hare.
PH: You think O’Hare was our stuff , possibly.
RH: It’s all about revealing something. Not necessarily revealing the truth, but revealing something. Remember, you can make our stuff look like their stuff. People don’t notice our stuff, they don’t know that we have stuff. They’ve been kept in the dark. Even Art Bell was kind of amusing, because he sees this thing floating out over him in Verona, over the valley, this huge
triangle, and wonders – is it theirs or ours? So when I saw this stuff appear on You Tube, Secret Apollo Missions and all that, it’s very simple now. It’s a secret space program operating under hyperdimensional physics. Which means antigravity. That’s how you take forty people to the moon. So someone, whoever wrote this story, is connecting it to the whole Masonic thing. He uses it, in the opening sequence of it --
PH: He’s connecting it?
RH: He’s connecting it. Deliberately. That’s why he picked the name Rutledge? Remember, I came out and I said his name is a code, which is why Robin looked it up. We found out this whole business about Armstrong, and the Rutledge, and Irwin. What does he complain about? That there’s Apollo 15 soundtrack mixed into this Apollo 20 footage. And that’s referred back to
Irwin. It’s all codes, codes, and codes. The bottom line is, it says the Masons have been running a secret space program. It used to be NASA, but it’s now moved off in other directions, and NASA is basically over. NASA is obsolete. That is merely window dressing. It’s a diversion, it’s not real, and that’s not where the real power is. That’s what this whole thing is trying to say. This is validated by completely separate research, which is in the book.
PH: So NASA, from now on, will be that separate group.
RH: Yes, but it been there for a long time. As soon as they developed antigravity as a working, functioning technology, which I think was back when we saw the STS 48, then when you had the shuttle and it’s already over Australia and they photographed this stuff going incredible g-forces and all that. Around 19.5. Then the one over ICF-80, with the stuff over Chile, which was again over 19.5. On the 195th orbit. There is no explanation, no one is asking the question. I’m the only one asking the question.
PH: Okay, but what is the explanation for all the activity over the 19.5, because that’s where all the activity is.
RH: Ice crystals?
PH: What’s your explanation?RH: Our secret space program. They’re documenting and doing short readings on the spacecraft we developed. It’s got to be done on the ritual. It’s a religious ritual. It’s transcendent. If they work the methodology properly, they will live forever. That’s what they think. Isn’t that what every religion preaches? Believe in me and you will live forever? For the followers of Osiris
and Christ, the message is the same.
PH: And the reason why you say Osiris is because the space program is filled with Egyptian Symbolism ?
RH: All the major alignments are made to Osiris, i.e., Orion. Sirius is Isis.
PH: We thought all this was mythology.
RH: At some point, this may actually have been real, in the sense that we don’t know how it all actually began. Are we worshipping members of the family, a long long time ago? Where the mythology defines our gods? Anyway, bottom line – the whole story to me is a coded story, designed to tell us there’s a secret space program, NASA is irrelevant, it’s not where the action is, and there’s more to come.
PH: July, the seventh month, 1947.
RH: The actual code number is 19.47. It rounds up to 19.5.
PH: Why do you say ET is us? Who did you say is ET, aliens or us?
RH: ET. Extraterrestrial. It’s a designation of real estate; it’s where you hang your hat. Alien means different from others.
PH: You’re the only one who defines it this way, right? Because in the movie, ET was not us.
RH: But if you look at the language, it’s right on. You can be an alien and an extraterrestrial. He’s an alien.
PH: Is there anyone or anything else that’s like the aliens, like from Zeta Reticuli, and the ET is us from the future, from another planet like Mars or something? Is there anything written that I can look at?
RH: I have to think about it.
PH: That’s one thing that I heard you say that interested me a lot.
RH: Do you remember the film, The Day the Earth Stood Still?
PH: Yes.
RH: And they were in the hospital, and the lungs were the same, the heart was the same, and they thought it must be convergent evolution. Why were they saying in that film what they knew, that they had two different sets of extraterrestrials? You have aliens who are not genetically related, and then you have family, human beings who live in other places, on other planets.
It’s right out there in that film. Because Michael Rennie was representing the fraction of the human race that’s not here. Now if we fast-forward the film to 1969, Neil Armstrong lands on the moon and utters his famous phrase. There’s thirty years of controversy, which they tried to put their finger in the dyke and stifle…
PH: You mean “mankind” instead of man?
RH: Yes.
PH: Oh, that makes sense.
RH: Why? Because it was the message.
PH: Oh Richard. Only you could come up with this. It’s just semantics.
RH: “One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.” He was representing all of the Pleadians and the Nordics and all the other members of the human genome from all those planets all over the galaxy, and that’s in the book. In the final part, I decode that.
PH: Can I use this?
RH: Yes.
PH: Because most people I talk to think of ET as the odd looking greys.
RH: They’re ignorant. They’re taking their cues from Stephen Spielberg, who was misleading people.
PH: Do you know anything specific about who commissioned The Day the Earth Stood Still? I think it was commissioned by the government.
RH: I do too. Who was the guy, when he finally got his film after decades of us all pushing, who was the one guy Gene Roddenberry turned to for Star Trek the Movie? Robert Wise.
PH: So Robert Wise and Roddenberry and the vision of Roddenberry…
RH: Robert Wise is part of the in crowd. So was George Lucas.
PH: So they’re part of an in crowd of disclosure. The Insiders?
RH: Part of an in crowd that knows that the rate at which they are allowed to disclose may or may not be up to them.
PH: There’s an agenda.
RH: Nothing happens by accident.
PH: So the people who were on Mars are us, and then we came down on Earth, so it’s all us? Bradbury said that at the end of Martian Chronicles, that we are the Martians. They look in the water and he says look at that, they are us. He’s the only guy on my list of ten people that I
never met. I had a list of ten people in my book, and I met all of them by accident except Bradbury. He’s the only one I haven’t met yet. He lives in California. Of course, he’s not dead yet, so I might still meet him one day.
RH: He was on Coast to Coast recently. George was off and they had a guest host, and he wanted to talk to, of all people, Bradbury.
PH: So I can get an archive of it? I admire him so much. I love his work, especially Night Meeting, with the parallel reality kind of argument. At the very end he uses those famous words which I use a lot, let’s agree to disagree. Because there’s no winning that. Anyway, so the name of your book is?
RH: Dark Mission: The Secret History Of NASA
PH: That sounds very ominous. So we were talking yesterday about the Rutledge thing, because it comes out ironically sixty years after the Roswell event. These are secret missions?
RH: We now know, as the book documents, that these people are ritual obsessives. They can do nothing without the ritual, and the ritual involves these numbers, like 33, 60, 19.5, etc.
PH: When did the ritual begin? It had to begin before NASA, right?
RH: Oh, yes. It’s an ancient religion, an Egyptian stellar religion.
PH: So who decided they were going to do the ritual?
RH: The Masons. Now remember, the Masons took over NASA.
PH: The Masons took over America, too.
RH: Yeah, well, they were part of the foundation of the country. But in NASA you had two other groups who were competing for power. The Masons, the Nazis, and the magicians. Aleister Crowley, Jack Parsons, that whole wing.
PH: I don’t know what their involvement is, I’ll have to read your book.
RH: So they’re competing, and when Rutledge which of course is not his name --
PH: Robin looked up his name in an encyclopedia, and she saw that the words Armstrong, Rutledge, and Irwin are part of the Scottish --
RH: And remember what Irwin said was his big objection to the reality of this?
PH: No, what was that?
RH: There’s a bit of the soundtrack to Apollo 15 in there, which makes it seem like a fake. But it’s not, because the whole thing’s a fake. It’s all part of the message. It’s a complicated, multilevel code. Remember, I came out and I said, it’s all a code, including his name.
PH: Including the 19 and 20.
RH: Well, when you go back, the thing broke over You Tube about a month ago where somebody posted on You Tube from Africa ostensibly, the secret results of the secret NASA missions, Apollo 19 and 20, and that they went to this secret place on the far side of the moon that had been photographed by Apollo 15. So the first thing I did was to have my guys,
Laney and Troy, go to the archives. They’re both lunar people, they’ve done incredible lunar work.
PH: They had gotten you the original photographs, which had been severely altered.
RH: Well, we pulled them from a few different archives, and both sets of archives had been tampered with. It obviously had been done very early on, because now you can alter a photograph in PhotoShop and it’s seamless, you don’t even know. But this was like whitewash over the negative and when you brought it up in PhotoShop, you could see how it had been painted. Like somebody had taken a brush and painted the negative. So this corroborates
what somebody like Ken Johnson said, about people painting negatives, which bothered him because when you paint a negative, you destroy the information. Now of course the original negatives will never be seen. So I thought, okay, some other group is trying to hide it. So then, when Laney put his results up on his website to have his people look at it, somebody pointed out that the artifact on the Apollo 15 images were at 19.5 degrees. And then he said, Oh, come on, you’ve got to be kidding. So he measured it. It was right next to Psiakolskei, and Psiakolskei was at 19.5. Then I realized that the secret missions were 19 and 20. It’s absurd that there are secret missions, you can’t launch a Saturn 5 secretly.
PH: If we’re assuming that it comes out of NASA in Florida, but could it be launched from somewhere else?
RH: No, because you’d need a huge infrastructure. And they had to be trucked there by ship. And then the Russians would have known.
PH: The only reason I’m saying this is because some of the testimony from Charles Hall, he saw near the Area 51range, rockets go off. He said they were launching rockets that went up in that area in 1965.
RH: It couldn’t have been launched from there. One of the stories says 40 astronauts. Apollo could carry three. Forty went. Remember he claimed that they were communicating by a tyro satellite, which was an earth weather satellite. Well that’s more of the code. Nothing in this story is what it appears to be.
PH: So what’s the code about the tyro?
RH: I don’t know yet. You have to go look it up, I don’t have to do all the work, do I? He could have made up the name, why put up real information? So if you’re dealing with a code, nothing in a code is superfluous. It’s all part of the code. Each little detail, even if it looks like it doesn’t fi t, probably does. You just have to think at another level.
PH: So why do you think this came out now? These are military astronauts, this is hard for people to swallow.
RH: Why? We had the whole Air Force dinosaur program, which was a pre-shuttle shuttle. There was a space station, there were supposed to be three space stations.
PH: We have this wonderment about traveling among the planets and stars and discovering space, and when you shove the word “military” in there it gives the space exploration a whole other meaning to the wonderment that we had in the sixties when Kennedy said we would
shoot for the stars.
RH: That was a lie.
PH: What part was a lie?
RH: That it was non-military. There was never a part that was nonmilitary. In the book I show in NASA’s own charter, that it says it was part of the Defense Department.
PH: Wasn’t it supposed to be a civilian organization?
RH: That’s the public spin. And that’s the lie. This book is going to open a lot of eyes, because we document everything.
PH: It’s going to be hard for people to digest this lie.
RH: After Iraq, with no weapons of mass destruction, and a war that’s cost three thousand lives, for nothing? 70-80% of Americans believe that.
PH: The big question is what is NASA’s agenda?
RH: Initially, it was formed around available technology to grow as fast as it could, to get to the moon, and bring back technology.
PH: Alien technology?
RH: No, ours. Stuff left there by the family a very long time ago. Which these guys think they’re the heirs to, that it’s their stuff. And they think they’re the bloodline that deserves to have sole access. They’re not telling anybody else. It’s all about, “they can’t have that, that’s mine.”
PH: Is that alien technology, or our ET technology? Is it an either/or, does it have to be?
RH: The fact that they act like it’s theirs – remember, we’re talking about elite bloodlines, families, secret societies to think they’re special, they’re related – it’s about who owns it. That’s the attitude. No one is admitting, nor will they ever want to admit, that there’s more family. That’s why the whole thing about Armstrong’s first line is so important.
PH: They don’t want to admit that they’re aliens, they just want --
RH: ETs, not aliens. It’s the ET part they’re covering up, that we’re only one subset of a bigger mankind.
PH: But even the ones that don’t look like us, that are kind of small, and inbred, those are not from another planet?
RH: A jury can make anything out of it.
PH: Genetic engineering can have worker bees.
RH: There are all kinds of models.
PH: So in this model, it’s all us. Those people are the past. So are we looking at what could be their future?
RH: Well, the stuff is there from the past.
PH: I have a lot of stories where US from the future comes back to tell us that, and it gets very tricky.
RH: Telling you stuff and being able to transmit technology are two different things. Information may be able to travel through time, but physical objects may not.
PH: So we’re dealing with an ancient past that is us, and we’re just reclaiming our stuff .
RH: Well I think that’s what they think. Because they act very territorial, very provincial. Like you can’t have it, that’s mine. And when Kennedy tried to share it, they killed him.
PH: Why did Kennedy want to share it with the Russians?
RH: Yes, as with one planet. Because the planet almost killed itself with nuclear war. He came a whisper away from the Cuban missile crisis. So he and Khrushchev realized they needed something bigger to get everybody to stop fighting each other. There are many reasons people are in it for because it’s never been about UFOs. Particularly now that Walter Haut has risen from the grave and has given them what they’ve been looking for; that he saw the alien bodies in Roswell.
PH: You are right Richard. We are still a primitive tribe fighting over that scrap of land, over ideologies, over everything. It is nuts!
RH: Are we getting a real look into the field?
PH: So Walter Haut – and you think that’s a program, sixtieth – and you expect more this year?
RH: Is the Pope Catholic?
PH: So the ultimate agenda for NASA is to get back the stuff they think is theirs in the first place.
RH: Yes.
PH: Now does all of NASA know this, or just part of NASA?
RH: No the lies are different at every level. It’s in the book. Originally, in 1958 – remember, the space program began as a competing set of military eff orts. The Marines, the Navy, the Air Force, they were all competing with each other to go to the moon, launch satellites, beat the Russians. The services have always competed.
PH: What Ex Canadian minister of Defense Paul Hellyer said he was doing in the sixties was a monumental task of joining all the services together. One service, one thing he said because in America they were all fighting each other.
RH: So what Eisenhower did, obviously on the recommendation of people pulling the strings behind the scenes, was to create a separate space agency outside of the military services that would be technically still under the national security directives. The National Security Council, the Pentagon, the DOD, but would look like it was civilian. In fact, it’s not. That was another
lie. It’s a cover. It’s always a cover.
PH: Eisenhower was the first one to put it together.
RH: Yes, in July of 1958.
PH: Eisenhower knew a lot.
RH: So what did he warn when he quit? At the end of his term, he warned against the military-industrial complex. He saw the coming Fascist state. And he obviously was forced to do things that he was trying to warn people about.
PH: Do you think part of that is because you believe the meeting he had with aliens?
RH: I don’t know. Eisenhower ostensibly met with aliens on a golfing vacation, he suddenly had to go for a dentist appointment, he was gone for several hours and nobody watched So what did he warn against when he quit? It has happened.
PH: This cover-up is so deep and involves so many people; I will be surprised if they ever come clean. I am looking forward to your book, Richard.
WORLD EXCLUSIVE: NASA FINDS MISSING MOON LANDING TAPES
Sunday June 28 2009 by Ted Jeory
ECSTATIC space officials at Nasa could be about to unveil one of their most stunning discoveries for 40 years — new and amazingly clear footage of the first moon landing.
The release of the new images next month could be one of the most talked about events of the summer.
The television images the world has been used to seeing of the historic moment when Neil Armstrong descended down a ladder onto the moon’s surface in 1969 is grainy, blurry and dark.
The following scenes, in which the astronauts move around the lunar lander, are so murky it is difficult to make out exactly what is going on, causing conspiracy theorists to claim the entire Apollo 11 mission was an elaborate fraud.
However, viewers have only ever seen such poor quality footage because the original analogue tapes containing the pictures beamed direct from the lunar surface were lost almost as soon as they were recorded.
Instead, a poor quality copy made from a 16mm camera pointing at a heavily compressed image on a black and white TV screen has been the only record of the event.
The Sunday Express can now reveal that the missing tapes containing the original high quality images have been found.
If the visual data can be retrieved, Nasa is set to reveal them to the world as a key plank of celebrations to mark the 40th anniversary of the landings next month.
The tapes show in much more detail than almost anyone has previously seen the surface of the moon beneath the patriotic symbol of the US flag.
Crucially, they could once and for all dispel 40 years of wild conspiracy theories.
The low grade, dark and grainy television pictures that were beamed around the world on July 21 1969 were intended to give Americans just a glimpse of their country’s greatest exploratory achievement.
Technology at the time meant Neil Armstrong’s film, recorded using a special lunar camera, went through a series of processes, each of which marked a step down in quality before it hit people’s living rooms.
From the moon, the signal was beamed to the Earth’s closest tracking station at the Parkes Observatory in Australia where, along with other important data, it was recorded on to high-grade magnetic tapes.
Read more in Daily Express!
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STEVE BASSETT IN EUROPE
PRG Europe Speaking Tour and Information about PRG (Click!)
Paradigm Research Group
Press Release - September 8, 2009
Washington, DC - PRG executive director Stephen Bassett will leave on Thursday, September 10 for a forty day speaking tour of Europe to include seventeen stops in ten countries. The tour begins at the Beyond Knowledge Conference in Liverpool, UK.
Advocacy for a political resolution to the UFO/ET issue, which began to coalesce in the United States in the early 1990's, has now become an international "Disclosure Movement" seeking to end an official embargo of the truth regarding an extraterrestrial presence engaging the human race. Nowhere is this movement growing faster than in Europe.
Mr. Bassett is a leading advocate for ending this truth embargo. Paradigm Research Group was founded in 1996 exclusively for this purpose and was the first organization to register with the United States Congress to lobby the question . PRG's political action committee X-PPAC is the first PAC to address the UFO/ET issue. In 2002 Bassett became the second person (after Jimmy Carter) to bring the UFO/ET subject into a federal election campaign as a balloted candidate.
In 2004 PRG produced the first conference centered on the politics surrounding the UFO/ET phenomenon - exopolitics. The sixth X-Conference is scheduled for April 16-18, 2010 near Washington, DC. In 2008 PRG founded the Exopolitics World Network (EWN) and Exopolitics United States Network (EUSN) to help facilitate the expansion of the disclosure movement. EWN member Exopolitics United Kingdom is a cosponsor of the Liverpool Beyond Knowledge Conference.
PRG's advocacy work has been covered extensively by US and foreign media.
On the tour Mr. Bassett hopes to gain a greater understanding of how Europeans view the UFO/ET issue and the disclosure process. He will brief informal and formal groups on the pending collapse of the truth embargo, possibly in 2009, work to bring new countries into the EWN and seek new support for the ongoing advocacy initiatives.
The tour schedule is as follows: UK: Liverpool (Sept. 11-14), Bath (Sept. 14-16), Devon (Sept. 16-18), London (Sept. 18-21), Birmingham (Sept. 21), London (Sept. 22-24); Helsinki (Sept. 24-28); Stockholm (Sept. 28-30); Oslo (Sept. 30-Oct. 2); Berlin (Oct. 2-4); Copenhagen (Oct. 4-8); Brussels (Oct. 8-10); Hulst, Amsterdam (Oct. 10-12); Zurich (Oct. 12-14); France: Rennes (Oct. 14-16); Saint-Pierre-en-Port (Oct. 16-18); Paris (Oct. 18-20).
More information about the tour schedule including events, websites and contacts can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/nagqry
Relevant websites
Speaking Tour: www.paradigmresearchgroup.org/Europe_Tour.htm
Paradigm Research Group: http://www.paradigmresearchgroup.org/main.html
Media Coverage: http://www.paradigmresearchgroup.org/articles/PRGarticles.html
X-PPAC: http://www.x-ppac.org
X-Conference: http://www.x-conference.com
Exopolitics World Network: http://www.exopoliticsworld.net
Exopolitics United States Network: http://www.exopoliticsunitedstates.net
Beyond Knowledge Conference: http://www.beyond-knowledge.co.uk
Paradigm Research Group
4938 Hampden Lane, #161, Bethesda, MD 20814
PRG@paradigmresearchgroup.org 202-215-8344
www.paradigmresearchgroup.org
Watch Steven Bassett in Barcelona Summit further down this page!
PRG Europe Speaking Tour and Information about PRG (Click!)
Paradigm Research Group
Press Release - September 8, 2009
Washington, DC - PRG executive director Stephen Bassett will leave on Thursday, September 10 for a forty day speaking tour of Europe to include seventeen stops in ten countries. The tour begins at the Beyond Knowledge Conference in Liverpool, UK.
Advocacy for a political resolution to the UFO/ET issue, which began to coalesce in the United States in the early 1990's, has now become an international "Disclosure Movement" seeking to end an official embargo of the truth regarding an extraterrestrial presence engaging the human race. Nowhere is this movement growing faster than in Europe.
Mr. Bassett is a leading advocate for ending this truth embargo. Paradigm Research Group was founded in 1996 exclusively for this purpose and was the first organization to register with the United States Congress to lobby the question . PRG's political action committee X-PPAC is the first PAC to address the UFO/ET issue. In 2002 Bassett became the second person (after Jimmy Carter) to bring the UFO/ET subject into a federal election campaign as a balloted candidate.
In 2004 PRG produced the first conference centered on the politics surrounding the UFO/ET phenomenon - exopolitics. The sixth X-Conference is scheduled for April 16-18, 2010 near Washington, DC. In 2008 PRG founded the Exopolitics World Network (EWN) and Exopolitics United States Network (EUSN) to help facilitate the expansion of the disclosure movement. EWN member Exopolitics United Kingdom is a cosponsor of the Liverpool Beyond Knowledge Conference.
PRG's advocacy work has been covered extensively by US and foreign media.
On the tour Mr. Bassett hopes to gain a greater understanding of how Europeans view the UFO/ET issue and the disclosure process. He will brief informal and formal groups on the pending collapse of the truth embargo, possibly in 2009, work to bring new countries into the EWN and seek new support for the ongoing advocacy initiatives.
The tour schedule is as follows: UK: Liverpool (Sept. 11-14), Bath (Sept. 14-16), Devon (Sept. 16-18), London (Sept. 18-21), Birmingham (Sept. 21), London (Sept. 22-24); Helsinki (Sept. 24-28); Stockholm (Sept. 28-30); Oslo (Sept. 30-Oct. 2); Berlin (Oct. 2-4); Copenhagen (Oct. 4-8); Brussels (Oct. 8-10); Hulst, Amsterdam (Oct. 10-12); Zurich (Oct. 12-14); France: Rennes (Oct. 14-16); Saint-Pierre-en-Port (Oct. 16-18); Paris (Oct. 18-20).
More information about the tour schedule including events, websites and contacts can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/nagqry
Relevant websites
Speaking Tour: www.paradigmresearchgroup.org/Europe_Tour.htm
Paradigm Research Group: http://www.paradigmresearchgroup.org/main.html
Media Coverage: http://www.paradigmresearchgroup.org/articles/PRGarticles.html
X-PPAC: http://www.x-ppac.org
X-Conference: http://www.x-conference.com
Exopolitics World Network: http://www.exopoliticsworld.net
Exopolitics United States Network: http://www.exopoliticsunitedstates.net
Beyond Knowledge Conference: http://www.beyond-knowledge.co.uk
Paradigm Research Group
4938 Hampden Lane, #161, Bethesda, MD 20814
PRG@paradigmresearchgroup.org 202-215-8344
www.paradigmresearchgroup.org
Watch Steven Bassett in Barcelona Summit further down this page!
PAOLA HARRIS INTERVIEWS
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On March 8th, 2000, Journalist and International Correspondent Paola Leopizzi Harris conducted this interview with Dr. Michael Wolf on behalf of the UFO DisclosureGroup. Many thanks to Paola for this world wide exclusive - John Colaw, Director UFO Disclosure Group.
Paola: Michael, there is a growing consensus that the public is being gradually conditioned for eventual disclosure of UFOs and Extra-Terrestrials. Do you think this is an accurate perception? Is the public ready for disclosure?
Michael: This will be true because the group that I am still advising is using
the Learning Channel and the Discovery Channel to get people acclimated to the idea that "we are not alone". The Learning Channel and the Discovery Channel does not produce fiction. This is an accurate perception. It is all factual.
Paola: As you know I am an investigative journalist and I worked with Allen Hynek for six years so I was thrilled to interview Ann Eller, his secretary in Scottsdale , Arizona.
I am including her biography here and her book from Authorhouse publishing
Dragon in the Sky:Prophesy from the Stars will debut at the Galactic Gathering conference in Denver on September 25th and 26th.
Dragon in the Sky: Prophecy From The Stars by Ann Eller. This inspiring book by Dr. J. Allen Hynek’s former secretary gives details into “retro” UFO stories, introduces
her alien visitors and provides a cosmic message for the human race.
Ann Eller, who worked with Dr. J. Allen Hynek, the Father of UFO-Alien research, has a unique perspective on the UFO enigma. Her fascinating story also revisits her days in the White House during the Clinton administration, as a medevac nurse for the Peace Corps, and her exceptional encounters with other-worldly beings.
Because of her time spent with Dr. Hynek, she offers a completely different insight into the inner workings of UFO
I am including her biography here and her book from Authorhouse publishing
Dragon in the Sky:Prophesy from the Stars will debut at the Galactic Gathering conference in Denver on September 25th and 26th.
Dragon in the Sky: Prophecy From The Stars by Ann Eller. This inspiring book by Dr. J. Allen Hynek’s former secretary gives details into “retro” UFO stories, introducesher alien visitors and provides a cosmic message for the human race.
Ann Eller, who worked with Dr. J. Allen Hynek, the Father of UFO-Alien research, has a unique perspective on the UFO enigma. Her fascinating story also revisits her days in the White House during the Clinton administration, as a medevac nurse for the Peace Corps, and her exceptional encounters with other-worldly beings.
Because of her time spent with Dr. Hynek, she offers a completely different insight into the inner workings of UFO
studies and research, as well as her recollections of UFO information with which she became acquainted while serving as Hynek’s personal secretary.
For over twenty years, Dr. J. Allen Hynek was Science Advisor for the United States Air Force working on Project Sign, Project Grudge, and Project Blue Book. Dr. Hynek investigated nearly all of the well-known UFO sightings during the early years of UFO history, and contributed to Steven Spielberg’s movie, “Close Encounters of the Third Kind.” (Click for the trailer including clips of Hynek!)
Ann fondly remembers Dr. J. Allen Hynek as a man of high integrity, and committed to looking into the UFO question and the true nature of the alien agenda. During the time Ann spent at the International Center for UFO Research in Scottsdale, Arizona, she had the opportunity to meet the “Who’s Who” of UFO research. Her story leads to a deeper understanding of Dr. Hynek’s research and behavior and exposes his interest in secret societies and spirituality.
Ann also revisits Dr. Hynek’s transition from staunch skeptic to an open-minded investigator of UFO phenomena. She appealed to Dr. Hynek for consideration of the many witnesses who were ostracized after sharing their stories, pointing out that there was too much compelling evidence for their stories to be dismissed. Dr. Hynek concluded that the UFO question needed more answers and was committed to seeking them out.
Read more about J. Allen Hynek in Wikipedia!
An incredible contact experience in Laramie, Wyoming left Ann with a message to tell the world. Ann clearly and powerfully articulates what mankind must do in the coming days to live consciously. In her book, Dragon in the Sky; Prophecy from the Stars, Ann challenges our assumptions about our daily life, warns us about what is on the very near horizon and stresses the need for dramatically improving the quality of our relationships to each other and to the Divine. She shares her wisdom filled with inspiration, humor, and spiritual insight.
Ann Eller has had a diverse and expansive history as an elementary school teacher, OB-GYN Nurse Practitioner, GYN surgical nurse, Medevac Nurse for the Peace Corps, Mother, Grandmother, White House volunteer, world traveler, and secretary to the renowned astrophysicist, Dr. J. Allen Hynek.
Ann has had her own extraordinary experiences with alien visitors. In her book, Dragon in the Sky: Prophecy From the Stars, she tells of her astonishing experiences, her message from the stars, and her appeal to all for higher consciousness and UFO disclosure.
Her personal philosophy is that we are here to realized our passions and dreams and in so doing we are naturally following the Path back to the Source of all creation.
She is the Mother of two and Grandmother of three and currently resides in Sedona, Arizona.
J. Allen Hynek with J. Vallee
John Mack with Paola in Italy
Paola Harris and Enzo De Caro
Paola Harris presentation in Barcelona 2009
EXOPOLITICS SUMMIT 2009 (CLICK!)
(See the left marginal when the Exopolitics FinlandTV opens!)
Michael Salla in Barcelona Summit
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UK MoD Files August 2009 Release
The late summer 2009 release of documents is just one of countless mysterious reports released as part of a three-year project between the MoD and The National Archives, aimed at opening up the records to a worldwide audience.
A video about the release of files
The Government 'X- Files', contains 14 files of sightings, letters and Parliamentary Questions - 4,000 pages in total. The global exopolitics community tends to view the various national file release projects as a positive move towards transparency in this field however it is seen more as contributing to the ongoing process of public acclimation rather than formal, 'big D' Disclosure by which the various governments make a formal acknowledgement of the extra-terrestrial presence.
In this article - the contributors to Exopolitics UK, Germany, Poland and Finland briefly address some of the key cases in the current release.
For this sites coverage of previous MoD releases - try the archive search. Download your own release documents here.
File release summary - August 2009
In addition to the incidents below, the current release also features reports about numerous sightings over Scotland as Bonnybridge became the UFO hotspot of the mid-90s, sightings from Glastonbury and a report of wailing noises and mysterious lights being beamed on to a cemetery in Cheshire in July 1996. Investigations discovered four smouldering railway sleepers, one with a hole burnt through it. One young man claimed he saw a UFO hovering over a cemetery before it fired burning laser beams into the ground.
According to the released police log by the MoD, a bright yellow light followed the youngster, who was crossing a footbridge from Avondale Drive into Upton. The light was 'two houses high', he reported, and followed him when he tried to walk away from it.
The release is also broken down into regional reports from individual cities and counties in the UK. For example UFO sightings in London between 1993-94 included dozens of sightings of a brightly illuminated oval objects caused by what was actually a Virgin airship. Some accounts include sketches and several people refused to believe the UFO was in fact the airship. See DEFE 24/1963, 1959, 1960. Other regional incidents are listed in the index document.
Some commentators have made the link between a peak in reported incidents during 1978 as this was the same year that the infamous film 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind' was released. There is of course a link between media exposure and sightings but this issue does not detract from the very real issues revealed by public reporting of possible extra-terrestrial related episodes.
Read more here in Exopolitics UK
ENEWS
PRIMER ENCUENTRO PERUANO DE EXOPOLÍTICA
Nos llega la invitación de nuestro querido amigo, el Doctor Anthony Choy, al primer encuentro peruano de exopolítica, a celebrarse en la ciudad de Lima, este 11 de Septiembre, ingreso gratuito.
Siguiendo la tendencia mundial para tratar el tema del fenómeno "ovni", desde el punto de vista del conocimiento humano, vale decir de las humanidades y de las ciencias, la AFODAE da el paso al frente en nuestro país y organiza el primer evento de exopolítica, reuniendo a los principales propulsores de la investigación y el estudio del fenómeno, como nuestro amigo el doctor Anthony Choy quien será ponente en esta primera cita, y a quien agradezco la invitación personal que me hiciera para acudir al evento.
La exopolítica, pues, acoge a todo aquél que se ha acercado al fenómeno "ovni", sin sortilegios improbables, sin pretensiones proféticas, sin prédicas fanáticas del fin del Mundo; sino mas bien con la seriedad que requiere toda realidad poco conocida.
Source: Luis Vásquez Coronel, ufo researcher in Peru
Read more in Spanish about this first Exopolitics conference in Peru
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For over twenty years, Dr. J. Allen Hynek was Science Advisor for the United States Air Force working on Project Sign, Project Grudge, and Project Blue Book. Dr. Hynek investigated nearly all of the well-known UFO sightings during the early years of UFO history, and contributed to Steven Spielberg’s movie, “Close Encounters of the Third Kind.” (Click for the trailer including clips of Hynek!)
Ann fondly remembers Dr. J. Allen Hynek as a man of high integrity, and committed to looking into the UFO question and the true nature of the alien agenda. During the time Ann spent at the International Center for UFO Research in Scottsdale, Arizona, she had the opportunity to meet the “Who’s Who” of UFO research. Her story leads to a deeper understanding of Dr. Hynek’s research and behavior and exposes his interest in secret societies and spirituality.
Ann also revisits Dr. Hynek’s transition from staunch skeptic to an open-minded investigator of UFO phenomena. She appealed to Dr. Hynek for consideration of the many witnesses who were ostracized after sharing their stories, pointing out that there was too much compelling evidence for their stories to be dismissed. Dr. Hynek concluded that the UFO question needed more answers and was committed to seeking them out.
Read more about J. Allen Hynek in Wikipedia!
An incredible contact experience in Laramie, Wyoming left Ann with a message to tell the world. Ann clearly and powerfully articulates what mankind must do in the coming days to live consciously. In her book, Dragon in the Sky; Prophecy from the Stars, Ann challenges our assumptions about our daily life, warns us about what is on the very near horizon and stresses the need for dramatically improving the quality of our relationships to each other and to the Divine. She shares her wisdom filled with inspiration, humor, and spiritual insight.
Ann Eller has had a diverse and expansive history as an elementary school teacher, OB-GYN Nurse Practitioner, GYN surgical nurse, Medevac Nurse for the Peace Corps, Mother, Grandmother, White House volunteer, world traveler, and secretary to the renowned astrophysicist, Dr. J. Allen Hynek.
Ann has had her own extraordinary experiences with alien visitors. In her book, Dragon in the Sky: Prophecy From the Stars, she tells of her astonishing experiences, her message from the stars, and her appeal to all for higher consciousness and UFO disclosure.
Her personal philosophy is that we are here to realized our passions and dreams and in so doing we are naturally following the Path back to the Source of all creation.
She is the Mother of two and Grandmother of three and currently resides in Sedona, Arizona.
PH. Ann ,you were secretary and assistant to Dr. J Allen Hynek for some years in Scottsdale Arizona. Did you also know Jacques Vallee?
AE: You heard about the interview on Coast to Coast, about a year ago? I missed it, too, but I heard from friends about it. Jacques Vallee talked about how he had such a wonderful camaraderie with Allen Hynek. Actually, it was Jacques who told me about the swamp gas, and how upset he was that Allen didn’t call him. He said,” I would have come, and we could have thought up a much better answer than swamp gas.” But actually, Hynek didn’t say The sighting was swamp gas. He said that he couldn’t rule out swamp gas.
PH: Allen could never “ live that down”. He always regretted it.
So the one time Allen got angry with you was because of what you said at the Wyoming Conference? I also saw him angry once.
The time I saw him get angry, because I knew him really well, was when he came to my house and Nightline’s Ted Koppel called him, and he was supposed to be on a program with the debunker Phil Klass. He told me that he wouldn’t even talk to those people, to tell them that like hell, he would be on a program with Phil Klass and he wasn’t the least bit interested. Phil Klass could be on the show by himself.
AE: Well, I went up to this conference in Wyoming, and Leo Sprinkle and Jerome Clark were there. And they asked Jerry and me to get up and talk to the conference. When it got to be my turn, I had noticed that there were a lot of contactees in the audience, so I said, “I want you to know that you’re not crazy, and that the government has known all about these ETs and all about these UFOs for a long time, and not only that, they are in cahoots with them.”
PH: You said that?
AE: Yes, I said that. They took it out of the transcript, though, because they sent me a copy of the transcript and it was out of there. And there’s even a little blurb in the transcript that said “inaudible,” or something like that.
PH: Can I ask you, did you get that from some knowledge?
AE: It was just known. It wasn’t like I had seen a piece of paper or a document. It wasn’t that Allen had ever said this. I just knew it. You know when you’re in this business for so long and you’re around it so much, it’s like osmosis. I was coming from a space of being very sympathetic with the contactees and how some of their lives had been ruined, and these were the questions they were asking us. “Why don’t you warn the contactees not to talk about it? Because you know the government is going to step in and make their lives miserable.” The party line was, we don’t have any evidence, we don’t have any knowledge of this. Jerome couldn’t get to the telephone fast enough after I said that. Allen was waiting for me when I got back, and I got a little slap on the wrist. He said we shouldn’t be making these kinds of statements to the public.
PH: But the government could be involved.Everyone knows about it.
AE: Yes.
PH: What did you do after that?
AE: I just listened.
PH: Were you ever listening when he was talking to a contactee?
AE: Yes, I think on a couple of occasions.
PH: Did you feel like he was telling the truth one hundred percent, or did he have trouble with that?
AE: Well, you know Travis Walton?
PH: Oh, yes, I know Travis.
AE: He had Travis Walton down for a session that we did, and I never felt that the ones that I heard were not telling the truth.
PH: Why would Allen Hynek have you listen?
AE: They were always very informal, and they were always over at the Center, so I was usually there also.
PH: So they were there, and you just happened to be there as well. Did he ever ask your advice?
AE: Yes, on occasion he would, because he knew that my orientation was very different from his. I was much more involved in the personal and spiritual side of this experience, and he hadn’t gotten there yet. He still asked questions like,” Did you feel the ship? Did you touch it?”
PH: He didn’t start meditating until the end of his life because I remember at his house we were not allowed to go and talk to him because he was meditating in the morning.
AE: Well, I meditated two and a half hours a day, and I got him interested in the mystical side of things. We would have these conversations about reincarnation and about all kinds of things. I’d given him this book, The Path of the Masters, for his birthday. And he went through that book, and wrote in the margins, and then we’d talk about it. So we had some very good spiritual discussions, and I am so convinced that this whole UFO experience comes to us as a prelude to an increase in our spiritual awareness. And so the Andreasson Affair, you know, the two experiences there were very spiritual. And it really delved into it. It’s that way with so many contactees. So anyway, he was the “nuts and bolts”, and I was the other side of the story.
PH: I was surprised by the way he would listen. He would actually be quiet for twenty minutes while people talked.
AE: He was good at that. In fact, you didn’t get much out of him.
PH: That’s what I remember, people just going on and on and I would say to him, “Why don’t you stop them?” And he would just listen. I think he was remembering other cases, and piecing this information into what he already knew.
In these photos Maurizio Baiata, Ann Eller and paola Harris
AE: Well, when I came back from Wyoming after my experience, when these beautiful Beings appeared in the room at the college…I was with a medium named Connie, and she changed from the waist up. She became these Beings, one right after the other. They were all female, they were stunning. They were just very – this first group was very human-looking, and they had these ornaments, certain things on their heads. One had a headdress on.
AE: Well, when I came back from Wyoming after my experience, when these beautiful Beings appeared in the room at the college…I was with a medium named Connie, and she changed from the waist up. She became these Beings, one right after the other. They were all female, they were stunning. They were just very – this first group was very human-looking, and they had these ornaments, certain things on their heads. One had a headdress on.
PH: Could anybody else see this?
AE: Yes, there were just the three of us in the room, and she, of course, couldn’t see it. Connie and her husband Doug were there with me. All night long we experienced it. We lost count after the first five came through, but at some point it stopped and the one person who was there started speaking. She held up her hand and made some kind of a motion, like this, like she was greeting us. When she did that, Doug and I both put our hands up and did the same thing. It was so weird. I asked where they were from, and the name was in my head, right there. It was written out in the long form, and then the shorter one, the way we might write Los Angeles, and then LA.
PH: Did you remember it?
AE: It was there, and the being said, “Yes, that’s correct,” and then it was gone.
PH: So the being said that in your mind, and not through the mouth of the medium?
AE: The being spoke through the medium. It sounded kind of like Connie’s voice, They were using her vocal cords, but some of the words that they used would not have been associated with Connie, they wouldn’t be in her vocabulary. At one point, they said, “We will now depart, for a higher power to come through.” And at that point, they took Connie way out, she had no recollection of that whatsoever. What came through then was ancient…ancient. Take an ET’s face, and make it rounder, and a little more human-looking…still with the long neck, and the wrinkles all the way down. But these eyes…were about three times larger than ours but rounded not cat eyed.
PH: Would you say it was a grey being?
AE: It was a female. They were all females. I asked them if the mission was on target. I had no idea what the mission was, but I seemed to know what the mission was when I was talking to them. They said yes, everything was fine. I said, “Will you stay with me?” And they said, “We have always been with you.” I said, “When can I join you?” and they said, “When the time is right.”
PH: So they said these things, and then they just left?
AE: Eventually, they left. Connie just keeled right over onto the floor.
PH: So this was at the dormitory, during the University of Wyoming conferences with Leo Sprinkle, in the year 1985, the year before Allen Hynek died.
AE: Leo and I also did a couple of sessions. One was to see if there had been any encounters and the second was very different. He has a conversation between you and your soul? He talks to your soul and takes you through several past lifetimes. Did he do that with you?
PH: No, he didn’t, but he did do one with reincarnation where he told me all about past lives that I’ve had.
AE: He told me about one life that Allen and I had had in which he was an astronomer and I was his assistant, in about 1400 or 1500, somewhere around there, and that Alan saw the ships in his telescope in that lifetime. He wouldn’t tell anybody, but he let me look through the telescope and see them. But he said, “you cannot talk about it.” I felt the same way this life. We can’t talk about this. He was doing the same thing. I think that’s why I said what I did in the conference, about the government knowing all about it. I was not going to be gagged in this life!
PH: Tell me, did you ever record this experience with this medium?
AE: Yes, as soon as I got back. I made Allen sit right down and I turned the tape recorder on, and I made him sit there for over two hours while I relayed this whole experience to him. You can hear him in the background there. The first thing he caught was the missing time, when we ran out of gas at the ranch and then when we arrived at the restaurant. We had about an hour and a half, two hours of missing time at that point. That was during the time when I was shown the five symbols.
PH: Do you have the symbols anywhere?
AE: Yes. I have them. At the McGuire Ranch, there were ships coming through, and in the mountains out there There is a depression like a portal. This is where the ships came through, you couldn’t see them but there was a whole herd of animals, Antelope. And when one of those ships came through, the whole herd just scattered. There were three ships. I didn’t see that, but Connie’s husband , Doug, said he thought there were three ships and described what they looked like. He squatted down with a stick and drew them in the dirt. I was mentally picking up a woman with flowers in her hair, and I said, “There’s a man here with her, and I don’t know what they’re saying.” Doug said, I think we need to ask permission. At that moment, my spiritual master came right in and gave permission, and then left. From then on, we just started picking things up. That’s when the whole experience started.
PH: What about Allen? Did you ever get the feeling when you were telling this to Allen, that he wished he was there?
AE: No. He talked about it, but he was mainly interested in the ship. We didn’t touch the ship. The ship didn’t materialize. The other stuff, I got the feeling was just a little too airy-fairy for him. He just couldn’t quite understand how these beings could come through the Medium.
PH: I remember once when I was at his house, he turned to me and said, “I wish I’d know the truth before I die.”
AE: All the time, I said to him, “Come on, you must have had some psychic /UFO/Alien experiences. Tell me about them.” I just said it all the time, and he just laughed, but he’d never say anything. The last time I went to visit him, he looked me in the eye and said, “I want you to know that I’ve had my own experiences.”
PH: He said that?
AE: He said that. Verbatim.
PH: And what did you say? Did you talk about it?
AE: No, he was too weak. But I treasured that, because I felt that he validated me. And I also told him before I left his office and went back to the hospital, “And he said, “I know.” Just consider that we have some karma together, because he and I used to talk about karma a lot.
PH: He also didn’t want to leave Mimi without money.
AE: They were excited about retirement.
PH: She was doing archaeological digs, she would accompany him everywhere.We would do everything together. We were out once in Santa Fe, New Mexico and he asked me to tango, so I’m out there dancing the tango with Allen Hynek, and finally he turned to me and said, “We better get off the dance floor, people will be speaking about us.” (Laughs). Mimi was also dancing.
AE: Several nights, I had been seeing this bright, bright light at about three o’clock every morning. I kept telling him about it, and I said, “I don’t think it’s a planet, and I know it’s not a star. You need to look at it.” So he said, okay, the next time you see it, give me a call. So the next night, I saw it at three o’clock, and I picked up the phone and called him. He said, “Okay, I’ll be right over.” I said, “You don’t have to come over here, just go outside and look.” He did go outside and look, and he called me back and said, “Sorry, it’s Venus.”
PH: So you said that eventually he began to go downhill, and that’s when he had some experiences. Did he ever lead you to what you should read that would help explain some of these things?
AE: No, I was more concerned about giving him spiritual books, because he was really interested in it. I thought that this was probably going to help him more. So I was more involved in reading books to him and making sure he was reading these.
PH: Did you leave Phoenix?
AE: Yes, I moved over to California. I went back to the hospital in October and worked there until January or February, when I moved over to California. My daughter was expecting her first child. So I was in California when Allen died. Before I left, I got to see him. And he told me that he had known all of his life, because he was born when Halley’s comet came through, that the next time Halley’s comet came back he’d go out. It was that year.
PH: Did he talk about that a lot about being ready to go?
AE: We talked about the disease process a lot, because I was a nurse. He was seeking the best help he could find. But he tried to keep up a brave face for everybody, saying, “Yeah, I’m going to be okay,” but he didn’t believe it. He knew he was dying and he knew that the comet was taking him out. He was a Rosicrucian, too, and nobody knew that. And I’ll tell you something else. You remember the big portrait that was on his living room wall? Remember the ring that was on his finger? That ring as I recall it had a Maltese cross on it. The Maltese cross was one of my symbols.
PH: The other portrait that I remember from his house was the one with the children and the big UFO running up the hill.
AE: I don’t remember that.
PH: It was a very realistic painting of a circular UFO that looked like the world, and a picture of them running up a grassy hill.
AE: I think a lot of people talked about getting messages from Allen after he died. The gal helping with the book said that he talked to her in her dreams the last couple of weeks. She’d wake up and say, “He’s telling me what to put in the first three chapters, but I can’t remember it!”
I wanted to tell you about this other thing. He showed me the contract that he had with Spielberg, and the wording in there is just amazing. He bought from Allen for one thousand dollars, the rights to use the words “Close Encounters of the Third Kind” anywhere in the universe. That’s the way it was worded.
I found a letter that had not been opened, and it was from the early 1950’s. I thought, that was just typical of him, you know, that he had never opened it. So I opened it, and it was from someone with an oriental name at Ohio State University Astronomy Department, and this person was simply documenting the fact that he had identified transmissions through his radio telescope from the area of Venus. What he was doing was just documenting it in this letter to Allen. Allen never opened it because he already knew what was in it, and he was just holding it for the guy in case anybody later said, “I just discovered these signals from Venus,” because this guy had found them first.
PH: He told you this?
AE: No, but I realized what had happened. So I didn’t know what to do. I didn’t know whether I should throw it away, or hide it, or tell someone about it, or take it away. I gave it to Allen and said, “I’m sorry, I opened this letter and it seems to be rather important.” I was blown away, 1952. Signals were being picked up from the vicinity of Venus.
PH: So he took the letter?
AE: Put it in a drawer and never said a word.
PH: I don’t even know where to begin with this.He’d call me every now and then, excited about a sighting. I didn’t even go into “ the contact scenario.2 when I worked with him. He had gone a lot farther in 1985. Did anybody come to see him when he was really sick?
AE: The only ones I remember from that summer are Richard Sigismond. Nice guy, I liked him.. Jacques Vallee, I liked him right away. Willie Smith came, and they were like twins, he and Allen, they were cut out of the same cloth. They were nose to nose with each other, I got the feeling that their computers were connected. (Laughs.) I don’t remember anyone else.
PH: No one from the military?
AE: Not that I knew of, and I was there every day. I would have known.
PH: He was in pretty good shape for most of that time. He didn’t have any lowering of energy or anything?
AE: Well, yes, there was a lowering of energy. Keep in mind that I left in October, so we had only known about it for three months when I left. When I came back, I could see the changes in him.
PH: He became frail? Did he respond to the therapy?
AE: Yes, he became frail. He did respond somewhat to the radiation and chemotherapy. When he died, I was in California and Mimi Hynek called. My name was on the Will, and I forget now what it was. She had to get something or wanted to send me something. But I didn’t go to the funeral or the burial.
PH: Did you know his collaborators in Arizona?
AE: Well, they were drawing up the will that one day, and they needed witnesses. I have a picture of the four of us and the attorney when we all signed the Center into the International Center for UFO Research. The photo was on Coast to Coast.
PH: What is the name of your book?
AE: Dragon in the Sky: Prophecy from the Stars
from Authorhouse Publishing. Available September 2009.
J. Allen Hynek with J. Vallee
John Mack with Paola in Italy
Paola Harris and Enzo De Caro
Paola Harris presentation in Barcelona 2009
Richard Dolan - Exopoltics & UFO Disclosure Part 1/6
This is Richard's presentationon the Challenges of UFO Disclosure, given in June 2009. First of six parts. Click here for the rest of the presentation.
EXOPOLITICS SUMMIT 2009 (CLICK!)
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Michael Salla in Barcelona Summit
Stephen Bassett - Barcelona 2009 - UFO Disclosure Lecture - Part 1 of 2 from Exopolitics Denmark on Vimeo.
Stephen Bassett - Barcelona 2009 - UFO Disclosure Lecture - Part 2 of 2 from Exopolitics Denmark on Vimeo.
Former Astronaut Brian O'Leary, PhD - Barcelona 2009 - Exopolitics and the Energy Solution Revolution (HD) from Exopolitics Denmark on Vimeo.
Carsten Dreschbach's Diashow of the Barcelona Summit (Click!)
UK MoD Files August 2009 Release
The late summer 2009 release of documents is just one of countless mysterious reports released as part of a three-year project between the MoD and The National Archives, aimed at opening up the records to a worldwide audience.
A video about the release of files
The Government 'X- Files', contains 14 files of sightings, letters and Parliamentary Questions - 4,000 pages in total. The global exopolitics community tends to view the various national file release projects as a positive move towards transparency in this field however it is seen more as contributing to the ongoing process of public acclimation rather than formal, 'big D' Disclosure by which the various governments make a formal acknowledgement of the extra-terrestrial presence.
In this article - the contributors to Exopolitics UK, Germany, Poland and Finland briefly address some of the key cases in the current release.
For this sites coverage of previous MoD releases - try the archive search. Download your own release documents here.
File release summary - August 2009
In addition to the incidents below, the current release also features reports about numerous sightings over Scotland as Bonnybridge became the UFO hotspot of the mid-90s, sightings from Glastonbury and a report of wailing noises and mysterious lights being beamed on to a cemetery in Cheshire in July 1996. Investigations discovered four smouldering railway sleepers, one with a hole burnt through it. One young man claimed he saw a UFO hovering over a cemetery before it fired burning laser beams into the ground.
According to the released police log by the MoD, a bright yellow light followed the youngster, who was crossing a footbridge from Avondale Drive into Upton. The light was 'two houses high', he reported, and followed him when he tried to walk away from it.
The release is also broken down into regional reports from individual cities and counties in the UK. For example UFO sightings in London between 1993-94 included dozens of sightings of a brightly illuminated oval objects caused by what was actually a Virgin airship. Some accounts include sketches and several people refused to believe the UFO was in fact the airship. See DEFE 24/1963, 1959, 1960. Other regional incidents are listed in the index document.
Some commentators have made the link between a peak in reported incidents during 1978 as this was the same year that the infamous film 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind' was released. There is of course a link between media exposure and sightings but this issue does not detract from the very real issues revealed by public reporting of possible extra-terrestrial related episodes.
Read more here in Exopolitics UK
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PRIMER ENCUENTRO PERUANO DE EXOPOLÍTICA
Nos llega la invitación de nuestro querido amigo, el Doctor Anthony Choy, al primer encuentro peruano de exopolítica, a celebrarse en la ciudad de Lima, este 11 de Septiembre, ingreso gratuito.Siguiendo la tendencia mundial para tratar el tema del fenómeno "ovni", desde el punto de vista del conocimiento humano, vale decir de las humanidades y de las ciencias, la AFODAE da el paso al frente en nuestro país y organiza el primer evento de exopolítica, reuniendo a los principales propulsores de la investigación y el estudio del fenómeno, como nuestro amigo el doctor Anthony Choy quien será ponente en esta primera cita, y a quien agradezco la invitación personal que me hiciera para acudir al evento.
La exopolítica, pues, acoge a todo aquél que se ha acercado al fenómeno "ovni", sin sortilegios improbables, sin pretensiones proféticas, sin prédicas fanáticas del fin del Mundo; sino mas bien con la seriedad que requiere toda realidad poco conocida.
Source: Luis Vásquez Coronel, ufo researcher in Peru
Read more in Spanish about this first Exopolitics conference in Peru
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